tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post4651553240428020577..comments2023-10-30T04:16:25.917-04:00Comments on Sentient Developments: Messages to ET and the precautionary principleGeorgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13003484633933455827noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-75038272920962141942007-12-15T07:10:00.000-05:002007-12-15T07:10:00.000-05:00"Of course, if everybody followed Brin's logic, th..."Of course, if everybody followed Brin's logic, that would go some way to explain the Fermi paradox: the ETs are all wisely cowering rather than broadcasting. But you'd think there would be some fraction of reckless ones."<BR/><BR/> perhaps, just possibly maybe, the fraction of reckless ones are mostly annihilated to the very brink of extinction or beyond, and the remainders are wisely listening and scouting using stealth. <BR/><BR/> If I were walking down a dark street, in a seemingly deserted town, i would slip into a shadow and try to assert why there's nobody around - not run around shouting 'HELLOOO? is anybody there? here I am! I am unarmed.. I have cash too? HELLOOO?'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-36702357083035043512007-11-02T06:25:00.000-04:002007-11-02T06:25:00.000-04:00"It's about 100 years too late to worry about that..."It's about 100 years too late to worry about that, we've been emitting modulated EM since the 1890s."<BR/><BR/>How would EM be interpreted then, just as noise (background space) or as a sign of intelligent life? The METI is different, its a designed, strong signal with a purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-91834741995518676682007-10-21T23:28:00.000-04:002007-10-21T23:28:00.000-04:00We should not broadcast a message because:A. There...We should not broadcast a message because:<BR/><BR/>A. There is no one out there to hear it and broadcasting would be a waist of time.<BR/><BR/>B. There is someone out there but they are either to advanced to use radio waves or so backward that they are not up to using radio waves yet, and therefore, it is<BR/>pointless to broadcast to them.<BR/><BR/>C. There is someone out there, and<BR/>they know something we don't about why you should not broadcast to anyone. Such as you might attract the attention of a species like us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-6237693873852423342007-10-18T16:00:00.000-04:002007-10-18T16:00:00.000-04:00Really, I am amazed not only at the vain delusion ...Really, I am amazed not only at the vain delusion man has of himself, but its failure to understand <BR/>why would any other form of Intelligent Life would like to introduce themselves to a planet who can't even tolerate one another, all that greed, the prejudice, the wars, the utter stupidity of man believing himself as above any other kindgom and exploiting it without any conscience (fauna, flora),his hubris of predominance crowned with the fool hat....come on....I am ashamed of how stupid the average person is...and even more of the educated one who dare thinking of the humanity with all its prejudice,hypocrisy, and inflated egos as some likable chaps UGH!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-42663754866530415212007-09-11T20:40:00.000-04:002007-09-11T20:40:00.000-04:00Ummm...has anyone here ever considered the remote ...Ummm...has anyone here ever considered the remote possibility that maybe there are NO other highly evolved life forms out there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-23632662354820217132007-09-03T16:11:00.000-04:002007-09-03T16:11:00.000-04:00If the universe is as full of civilisations as Dra...If the universe is as full of civilisations as Drakes equation may have us think, then there will also be a fair share of them who are stark raving mad - and that thought is enough for me to keep number hiding on....<BR/><BR/>GeertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-26866870242293830732007-08-28T00:14:00.000-04:002007-08-28T00:14:00.000-04:00Interesting how most of these researchers automati...Interesting how most of these researchers automaticly dismiss the UFO phenomena, not claim it's possible, but outright dismiss it. It's like it doesn't even register with anybody discussing issues like these.<BR/><BR/>My opinion is it doesn't matter what we do. If they are more advanced than us and are actively looking for us, they would find us before we had any inclination of their existance, let alone any attempt to listen for or respond to extraterrestrial signals.<BR/><BR/>-Jason Gammon<BR/>www.boyinthemachine.blogspot.comDoc Conjurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569054730270980353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-27080731392946452852007-08-21T00:38:00.000-04:002007-08-21T00:38:00.000-04:00Maybe they want to know if we have discovered God....Maybe they want to know if we have discovered God. Maybe they are waiting for us to proclaim it.TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04829675298922652501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-75190947407808955822007-08-20T03:24:00.000-04:002007-08-20T03:24:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.ZNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01341890452806688194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-52329650601180733162007-08-19T22:47:00.000-04:002007-08-19T22:47:00.000-04:00Too many 'mainstreamers' are avoiding proof we've ...Too many 'mainstreamers' are avoiding proof we've never been alone laying in plain sight on the Cydonia plain of Mars. There IS scientific evidence that NASA's Gary Soffen was highly mistake in discounting the "FACE" as "a trick of light and shadow". Google SPSR for Society of planetary SETI Research. The elitist who think a civilization is still communication with radio waves while we just learning hw to instantly transport photons is as ridiciolous as 200 years ago saying would never fly or go to the Moon.<BR/><BR/>The Universe doesn't fit into a "mainstream" box.<BR/><BR/>Bob...:D<BR/><A HREF="http://commonsensecentral.net/" REL="nofollow">http://commonsensecentral.net/</A>roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200824860134560491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-85752182056193666472007-08-16T20:34:00.000-04:002007-08-16T20:34:00.000-04:00It's about 100 years too late to worry about that,...It's about 100 years too late to worry about that, we've been emitting modulated EM since the 1890s.Jules Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01115506275519545033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-66148477541062985542007-08-16T17:18:00.000-04:002007-08-16T17:18:00.000-04:00To an advanced civilization, it costs less than a ...To an advanced civilization, it costs less than a cent to send out self-replicating probes in every direction at the speed of light.<BR/><BR/>Broadcast or no broadcast... with aperture synthesis telescopes ("hypertelescopes"), you can observe planetary surfaces from hundreds of light years away, if not more. There is no way to hide.Michael Anissimovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06217926458888484768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-31899948377967042112007-08-16T06:46:00.000-04:002007-08-16T06:46:00.000-04:00Thanks, George, for restoring my comment about you...Thanks, George, for restoring my comment about your post about SA.<BR/><BR/>This paper may give you food for thought regarding a change in focus for SETI approaches, and may also be useful in terms of possible application to the development of quantum computing and AI:<BR/><BR/>http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/9/8/263/njp7_8_263.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-38500609192541567002007-08-16T05:28:00.000-04:002007-08-16T05:28:00.000-04:00When Singularity Intelligence is discussed, it's u...When Singularity Intelligence is discussed, it's usually assumed that to contain existential risks (of for example creation of malevolent Power by a misguided geek in a garage) it should supervise the resources of all humanity. But the same is applicable to universe as a whole. Even benevolent civilization should be cautious of other civilizations, since they can easily screw up Singularity and turn exponential berserk, in which case it might be devastating to contain.<BR/><BR/>Other variation: berserks or precautionary measures are already on the loose and Fermi paradox is the result of their operation.Vladimir Nesovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15368298711560413255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-34164854873215400182007-08-16T02:47:00.000-04:002007-08-16T02:47:00.000-04:00Perhaps all the ETIs are just listening...which in...Perhaps all the ETIs are just listening...which in turn accounts for the silence.<BR/><BR/>It might like an AA meeting - everyone with their own inferiority complex.<BR/><BR/>I say we speak up - but let's keep prime time tv to ourselves, please.Rasmushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01493159042501240280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-79485742341157122622007-08-15T23:42:00.000-04:002007-08-15T23:42:00.000-04:00Of course, if everybody followed Brin's logic, tha...Of course, if everybody followed Brin's logic, that would go some way to explain the Fermi paradox: the ETs are all wisely cowering rather than broadcasting. But you'd think there would be some fraction of reckless ones.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the cosmos is like a party full of shy people, with nobody willing to risk making the first move.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.com