tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post3951302524879632091..comments2023-10-30T04:16:25.917-04:00Comments on Sentient Developments: TED Talks: Henry Markram builds a brain in a supercomputerGeorgehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13003484633933455827noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-16019003445352449322009-10-20T19:59:40.277-04:002009-10-20T19:59:40.277-04:00What Nato said.
Now, maybe this research can be ...What Nato said. <br /><br />Now, maybe this research can be carried on without overstepping any ethical lines. But I'd just like to be sure that everyone knows that they're there.<br /><br />I tend to be on the team that thinks it's possible, in principle, to create a genuinely sentient and conscious intelligence running on computer hardware (although it will be very difficult unless we use the method of exact emulation of the connectivity of a real brain). Anyway, "possible" does not equal "morally desirable". We need to tread warily in this area.Russell Blackfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12431324430596809958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-67870072244242055942009-10-20T18:04:14.302-04:002009-10-20T18:04:14.302-04:00I have no issues with testing subunits of a mind o...I have no issues with testing subunits of a mind or whathaveyou, though I would question whether one could really generate (again, past some point) the inputs necessary to produce telltale outputs without those inputs being themselves generated by other parts of the "simulated" mind. Sure, a motor cortex and a visual system do not a person make, but I'm a bit skeptical that such investigations will really yield the answers sought with little islands of quasi-cognition.Natohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05273666908715766390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-37592216845696786872009-10-20T10:39:08.585-04:002009-10-20T10:39:08.585-04:00While the successful completion of this project wi...While the successful completion of this project will be a major achievement, it will only be the beginning. Consider the fact that we've mapped the human genome but we haven't yet cured all genetic disorders.<br /><br />With regards to the person debate, I'm not sure if this project will ever create a person as we know it. It's designed to test inputs, outputs, and processes, but it's not designed to grow and develop a human being. This is the equivalent of taking a chunk out of a person's brain and running tests on it, except that you don't have to lobotomize someone to do it.proto Posthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119553386507068982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-88531948573494558472009-10-20T07:18:34.889-04:002009-10-20T07:18:34.889-04:00Nato has a point here. I'm not usually one to ...Nato has a point here. I'm not usually one to point out moral pitfalls, but this seems to be a situation where some worrying ones exist.<br /><br />If you design a superintelligent computer capable of solving all sorts of problems, but without any actual capacity for suffering, self-consciouness, yearning, and so on, you still have a tool. If you give it those capacities, what do you then have? A slave?<br /><br />How does he propose to get around this?Russell Blackfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12431324430596809958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6753820.post-5689106060332560182009-10-19T14:36:40.163-04:002009-10-19T14:36:40.163-04:00I just hope that his final comment reflects the aw...I just hope that his final comment reflects the awareness that, past some point, the success of their project would yield a person, rather than (merely) a technical achievement.Natohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05273666908715766390noreply@blogger.com